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HANNITY: ... and being a state sponsor of terrorism. And I think the president's comments are beyond naive if he thinks that they don't want a nuclear state because they have told him so. I think it's a very dangerous precedent the president is setting.
TATA: I agree with you, Sean, and I think your lead-in questions were very appropriate. This president, this administration has just eliminated Hezbollah and Iran from terror threats in the national security report. That somehow slid under the wire just this week. They're no longer in the national security report. Last year, they were at the top of the chart. And so you have to wonder if that's some kind of quid pro quo or opening gambit in these -- the negotiation that Secretary Kerry is doing. But how can they not be listed as a terror threat, when it -- the -- it's so obvious... HANNITY: Crazy, right? TATA: ... everywhere you go. And then we have the president talking to the Iranian people, reciting poetry to them, when just a few years ago, they were maiming and killing our soldiers with the most lethal form of roadside bomb. I don't know what pie in the sky world we're living in right now, but this is ridiculous. HANNITY: Yes. TATA: This is a rogue regime, oppressive regime... HANNITY: Hey, Max... TATA: ... that wants to destroy Israel and the United States! HANNITY: Hey, Max... SODERBERG: Nobody -- nobody... (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Nancy, hang on. Let me bring Max in. Max, I want to -- I want you to follow up on that because I think the general's bringing up a good point here. They won't even say that this is a terror state anymore. All three of you agreed on that, even Nancy. So... SODERBERG: No, I don't believe it. They... (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: You don't believe they're a state sponsor of terror? BOOT: Give me a chance to speak here, Nancy. (CROSSTALK) BOOT: The reality, Nancy, is that whatever the... SODERBERG: There is no... HANNITY: ... administration may say... SODERBERG: There's no -- let me finish! (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Nancy, let Max talk. He hasn't had a chance to talk. SODERBERG: No, I'm correcting... (CROSSTALK) SODERBERG: There is no question that Iran is supporting... (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Guys, Nancy, let him talk! BOOT: ... and we are not doing anything effective to stop Iran. It goes beyond a terror report. The fact is, as General Petraeus pointed out, Iran is running a proxy war in Syria and Iraq, as well as in Yemen. It is taking over a good portion of the region. And what are we doing to oppose Iranian design? I don't see anything. Instead, I hear administration spokesmen saying things like Iranian actions are potentially helpful as long as they're not too divisive, which is a little bit like saying that, you know, applauding Al Capone for providing liquor to the thirsty masses and hoping that he's not too criminal. Well, the very nature... SODERBERG: Max, you're an expert... (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Let him finish! All right, Nancy... (CROSSTALK) BOOT: The very nature -- you know, Nancy, if you could stop interrupting me and let me finish my thought? The fact is that the very nature of Iranian action is divisive and sectarian. And it sends the wrong message when President Obama is reaching out to the Iranian people not to tell them to overthrow their rulers, whom they hate and who oppress them, but to tell them about how he's about to reach a deal with their rulers that will allow them to keep a nuclear program with all restrictions off of it in 10 years. That is not the message we should be sending to the people of Iran. HANNITY: All right, let me -- let me -- let me ask Nancy this. You agree that they're a state sponsor of terror, they fight proxy wars, et cetera. So according to all the details, the ones that we have as of now -- and we may never even get to see the whole deal, we found out yesterday, which is understanding -- they don't label now Iran as a state sponsor of terror. But they're going to allow the Iranians to keep spinning their centrifuges, enriching uranium. And as Max rightly pointed out, in the sunset years of this deal, they would have the right to build a nuclear weapon with America's approval. SODERBERG: Well... HANNITY: Wait a minute. Do you think that is wise, considering their repeated threats to wipe Israel off the map? SODERBERG: I think -- first of all... HANNITY: That's a question! SODERBERG: ... I haven't seen the report... HANNITY: That's a question. SODERBERG: Let me -- you said you promised you'd let me talk. HANNITY: Yes, so answer it! SODERBERG: I haven't seen any report that the U.S. doesn't consider Iran to be a state sponsor of terrorism. You can't not look at Hezbollah and all the other areas and say that they're not a state sponsor of terror. But I think it might be -- and Max is a historian, a very good one. Look at what we -- how we acted during the cold war against the "evil empire" in the Soviet Union and make the comparison of, we talked to them throughout that horrible cold war. BOOT: Nancy, it's true that... (CROSSTALK) SODERBERG: ... you have to negotiate -- now you're interrupting me, Max. BOOT: Nancy, we just talked about... SODERBERG: Max, now you're interrupting me! BOOT: The only agreements that we reached that were at all worthwhile were with Mikhail Gorbachev because he was a different kind of Soviet leader. SODERBERG: No, that's not true. BOOT: And we have not seen... SODERBERG: We had -- that is not true, Max. BOOT: We have not seen an different kind of Soviet leader... (CROSSTALK) BOOT: ... leader in Iran. SODERBERG: We had nuclear agreements on arms control from Nixon through the end of the Cold War. That's just not true. I know you know that. BOOT: The Soviets violated the SALT treaty. It was meaningless. HANNITY: Do you really believe the -- you -- I'll go back to my question -- allowing them to spin their centrifuges, enrich uranium, and in the sunset years, have a nuclear weapon, sworn to Israel's destruction... SODERBERG: No, we will not have -- we will not agree... (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Can I finish the question? Is that a risk you're willing to take? SODERBERG: No. HANNITY: Do you really trust the mullahs in Iran with their radical Islamic views? SODERBERG: No, I don't, and neither does the administration. |
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