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So the Buddhist path, particularly the Tibetan approach, was obviously drawing me, but the first tradition that I became involved in was Zen. My first teacher was Sasaki Roshi. I remember going out to L.A. for a three day sesshin [Zen meditation program]. I prepared myself by stretching my legs for months and months so I could get through it.

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 I had a kind of magical experience with Sasaki Roshi, a reality experience. I realized, this is work, this is work. It¡Çs not about flying through the air; it¡Çs not about any of the magic or the romance. It¡Çs serious work on your mind. That was an important part of the path for me.

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Sasaki Roshi was incredibly tough and very kind at the same time. I was a total neophyte and didn¡Çt know anything. I was cocky and insecure and fucked up. But within that I was serious about wanting to learn. It got to the point at the end of the sesshin where I wouldn¡Çt even go to the dokusan [interview with the Zen master]. I felt I was so ill-equipped to deal with the koans that they had to drag me in. Finally, it got to where I would just sit there, and I remember him smiling at that point. ¡ÈNow we can start working,¡É he said. There was nothing to say—no bullshit, nothing.

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