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This is a rush transcript from "Hannity," March 23, 2015. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.
SEAN HANNITY, HOST: And welcome to "Hannity." The road to 2016 has officially begun. Texas Senator Ted Cruz announced that he's running for the White House. He will join us exclusively for the entire hour. Here's how it all went down earlier today. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Please join me in welcoming back to Liberty University Senator Ted Cruz. (CHEERS AND APPLAUSE) SEN. TED CRUZ, R-TX, PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: It is the time for truth! It is the time for liberty! (CHEERS AND APPLAUSE) CRUZ: It is the time to reclaim the Constitution of the United States! (CHEERS AND APPLAUSE) CRUZ: I am honored to stand with each and every one of you courageous conservatives as we come together to reclaim the promise of America, to reclaim the mandates, the hope and opportunity for our children and our children's children! We stand together for liberty! (CHEERS AND APPLAUSE) CRUZ: I believe in you. I believe in the power of millions of courageous conservatives rising up to reignite the promise of America! And that is why today, I am announcing that I'm running for President of the United States. (CHEERS AND APPLAUSE) (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Joining us now, the man himself, 2016 now official presidential candidate Texas senator Ted Cruz. Senator, good to see you. Welcome aboard. CRUZ: Sean, always great to join you. HANNITY: All right, those kids are adorable. CRUZ: Well, thankfully, they look just like their mother. HANNITY: What -- interesting, no teleprompter, first out of the gate. By design? CRUZ: Well, certainly, it's time to get in there. And it's time to start making the case that we got to change what we're doing. You know, I think there is an urgency to what we're facing in politics that's unlike anything you or I have ever seen before. I think it's now or never. I don't think we've reached the point of no return yet, but we are close. And I think if... HANNITY: What is the point of no return? CRUZ: Well, we've seen our national debt go from $10 trillion to $18 trillion. It's larger than the size of our whole economy. We're seeing our constitutional rights constantly under assault from the federal government. And we're seeing America recede from leadership in the world, and the world is melting down. I think if we have four or eight more years on this same path, we risk doing irreparable damage to this country. HANNITY: I'm going to get into the specifics on the economy, on foreign policy. First, a couple of questions about Ted Cruz. You went through a little bit of your family history, your family life story. Try and sum that up -- very fascinating background. I didn't know a lot of the things you said today. CRUZ: Well, it was great. My family was all there and able to join me. I shared my mom's story. You know, my mom grew up in Wilmington, Delaware. She grew up in an Irish-Italian working class family. Her mom, my grandmother, was the second youngest of 17 kids. I mentioned that my mom's uncle ran the numbers in Wilmington. I got to admit, my mother was a little horrified that I said that up there. And my grandfather, my mother's father, was a tough man. He drank too much. And he didn't have very enlightened views. He didn't really think women should get an education. And my mother is very soft-spoken, but she's strong-willed and very bright. And she stood up to her dad. She battled her father. HANNITY: Seventeen kids. CRUZ: And -- well, that was her mother. HANNITY: Her mother, right. CRUZ: And she became -- my mom became the first person in her family ever to go to college. And she went to Rice, graduated in 1956 with a degree in math and went into computer programming at Shell, I mean, was shattering glass ceilings. And it's -- my mom is 80 this year, and she was there at the event. And she is a woman of strength and fortitude but also incredible compassion. She is a wonderful mom and an incredible grandmother to our two little girls. HANNITY: And your dad fought Batista in Cuba, came here at 18. CRUZ: He did. And one of the things I tried to do with the students at Liberty is try to help put them in his shoes -- that he was 14, 15 years old. He was a kid in high school in student council when the revolution began. And the revolution in Cuba -- it started in the student councils, in the high schools, in the colleges. And you know, I sort of laughed. I was in student council growing up, but nobody would confuse our student council with revolutionaries. And my dad ended up -- when he was 17, Batista's police captured him and they threw him in prison and beat him halfway to death. And he fled Cuba. My grandfather told him, said, Look, they know who you are. They're just going to hunt you down and kill you. And so he applied to three universities, applied to University of Miami, LSU and University of Texas. And UT let him in. So my dad -- my grandfather drove my father to the ferry boat. My father lay down on the floorboards in the bottom of the car to hide because Batista's police were keeping an eye on him. And he got on the ferry boat. He had a passport. He'd gotten a legal student visa from the American consulate because he'd been admitted to UT, he could get a student visa. And then they had a family friend who ended up. He needed a stamp from the Batista government to get out, and they weren't going to give it to him, and so a family friend ended up paying a bribe to the Cuban government authorities to get the Cuban stamp to let him out. And he took a ferry boat to Key West and then got on a Greyhound bus and went all the way to Austin, and couldn't speak English, had a hundred dollars in his underwear. HANNITY: It's a very similar story for a lot of families, my family, as well. There have been issues -- you were born in Calgary, in Canada. CRUZ: Right. HANNITY: Is there a birth certificate issue? I don't mean to -- know -- I did look at social media today, and it did come up for a number of times. I wanted to give you a chance to address it. I know you mentioned at CPAC. CRUZ: Yes. Look, there's political chatter on it. The facts are clear. I was born in Calgary. My parents -- as a legal matter, my mother is an American citizen by birth. And it's been federal law for over two centuries that the child of an American citizen born abroad is a citizen by birth, a natural born citizen. HANNITY: OK. CRUZ: Which is what the Constitution requires to run. And several prior candidates have had this issue. John McCain was born in Panama. George Romney, Mitt's dad, was born in Mexico when his parents were Mormon missionaries down there. And actually, Barry Goldwater -- a lot of people don't know this -- was born in Arizona before Arizona was a state. And so as a legal matter, the issue is quite straightforward, that if you or I travel aboard and we have a child that's born abroad, and we're American citizens, that child is a natural born citizen. HANNITY: Why does Ted Cruz -- why do you, Senator, want to be president? It's a big decision, a big impact on your family. and how would a Cruz presidency differ from an Obama presidency? |
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HANNITY: Can I finish the question? Is that a risk you're willing to take? SODERBERG: No. HANNITY: Do you really trust the mullahs in Iran with their radical Islamic views? SODERBERG: No, I don't, and neither does the administration. HANNITY: So they shouldn't have a nuclear weapon. SODERBERG: They should not have a nuclear weapon, and we've been clear from day one they will never have a nuclear weapon. What we're trying to do is avoid having to have a military solution to achieve that goal. And no one has taken the military off the table. What the rational voices in this conversation are trying to do is negotiate no nuclear weapon, as opposed to having to bomb no nuclear weapon. HANNITY: All right, Tony Tata... SODERBERG: And I think it is absurd to not... HANNITY: General? SODERBERG: ... agree with that. HANNITY: General? TATA: I'm not sure what world you're living in. The military solution is happening now. Iran is in Iraq. They are fighting not as an ally to us. They are fighting to push the Arabs away from the Persian border, as they've done for thousands of years. They're fighting in Syria. They're fighting all across -- against U.S. interests. They want to destroy Israel. The military solution is on the table now. It's on the battlefield. And they're practicing destroying our aircraft carriers... SODERBERG: Wait. Just let me get you straight. You're arguing we should be at war with... HANNITY: All right... SODERBERG: You're arguing that we should... TATA: No. No. (CROSSTALK) TATA: All I'm saying is that they're already at war -- they're already at with us... BOOT: The only way... TATA: ... and we're acting like they're not. And we're negotiating with them... HANNITY: All right, final word, Max. (CROSSTALK) BOOT: The only way you can get a credible deal out of Iran is to have a credible threat... TATA: That's right. BOOT: ... of military force against them. In 2003, they interrupted their nuclear program because they were afraid of us after the invasion of Iraq. TATA: That's right. BOOT: But nobody is afraid of President Obama. Nobody imagines that President Obama... TATA: That's right. BOOT: ... would ever bomb Iran. So Iran has no reason... HANNITY: All right... BOOT: ... to reach a real accord to give up its nuclear programs... HANNITY: Guys, thank you very much... BOOT: ... which is something they have to do. (CROSSTALK) SODERBERG: Max, look at the facts. HANNITY: Thank you, guys. SODERBERG: That's just not true. Content and Programming Copyright 2015 Fox News Network, LLC. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Copyright 2015 CQ-Roll Call, Inc. All materials herein are protected by United States copyright law and may not be reproduced, distributed, transmitted, displayed, published or broadcast without the prior written permission of CQ-Roll Call. You may not alter or remove any trademark, copyright or other notice from copies of the content. |
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HANNITY: ... and being a state sponsor of terrorism. And I think the president's comments are beyond naive if he thinks that they don't want a nuclear state because they have told him so. I think it's a very dangerous precedent the president is setting.
TATA: I agree with you, Sean, and I think your lead-in questions were very appropriate. This president, this administration has just eliminated Hezbollah and Iran from terror threats in the national security report. That somehow slid under the wire just this week. They're no longer in the national security report. Last year, they were at the top of the chart. And so you have to wonder if that's some kind of quid pro quo or opening gambit in these -- the negotiation that Secretary Kerry is doing. But how can they not be listed as a terror threat, when it -- the -- it's so obvious... HANNITY: Crazy, right? TATA: ... everywhere you go. And then we have the president talking to the Iranian people, reciting poetry to them, when just a few years ago, they were maiming and killing our soldiers with the most lethal form of roadside bomb. I don't know what pie in the sky world we're living in right now, but this is ridiculous. HANNITY: Yes. TATA: This is a rogue regime, oppressive regime... HANNITY: Hey, Max... TATA: ... that wants to destroy Israel and the United States! HANNITY: Hey, Max... SODERBERG: Nobody -- nobody... (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Nancy, hang on. Let me bring Max in. Max, I want to -- I want you to follow up on that because I think the general's bringing up a good point here. They won't even say that this is a terror state anymore. All three of you agreed on that, even Nancy. So... SODERBERG: No, I don't believe it. They... (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: You don't believe they're a state sponsor of terror? BOOT: Give me a chance to speak here, Nancy. (CROSSTALK) BOOT: The reality, Nancy, is that whatever the... SODERBERG: There is no... HANNITY: ... administration may say... SODERBERG: There's no -- let me finish! (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Nancy, let Max talk. He hasn't had a chance to talk. SODERBERG: No, I'm correcting... (CROSSTALK) SODERBERG: There is no question that Iran is supporting... (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Guys, Nancy, let him talk! BOOT: ... and we are not doing anything effective to stop Iran. It goes beyond a terror report. The fact is, as General Petraeus pointed out, Iran is running a proxy war in Syria and Iraq, as well as in Yemen. It is taking over a good portion of the region. And what are we doing to oppose Iranian design? I don't see anything. Instead, I hear administration spokesmen saying things like Iranian actions are potentially helpful as long as they're not too divisive, which is a little bit like saying that, you know, applauding Al Capone for providing liquor to the thirsty masses and hoping that he's not too criminal. Well, the very nature... SODERBERG: Max, you're an expert... (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Let him finish! All right, Nancy... (CROSSTALK) BOOT: The very nature -- you know, Nancy, if you could stop interrupting me and let me finish my thought? The fact is that the very nature of Iranian action is divisive and sectarian. And it sends the wrong message when President Obama is reaching out to the Iranian people not to tell them to overthrow their rulers, whom they hate and who oppress them, but to tell them about how he's about to reach a deal with their rulers that will allow them to keep a nuclear program with all restrictions off of it in 10 years. That is not the message we should be sending to the people of Iran. HANNITY: All right, let me -- let me -- let me ask Nancy this. You agree that they're a state sponsor of terror, they fight proxy wars, et cetera. So according to all the details, the ones that we have as of now -- and we may never even get to see the whole deal, we found out yesterday, which is understanding -- they don't label now Iran as a state sponsor of terror. But they're going to allow the Iranians to keep spinning their centrifuges, enriching uranium. And as Max rightly pointed out, in the sunset years of this deal, they would have the right to build a nuclear weapon with America's approval. SODERBERG: Well... HANNITY: Wait a minute. Do you think that is wise, considering their repeated threats to wipe Israel off the map? SODERBERG: I think -- first of all... HANNITY: That's a question! SODERBERG: ... I haven't seen the report... HANNITY: That's a question. SODERBERG: Let me -- you said you promised you'd let me talk. HANNITY: Yes, so answer it! SODERBERG: I haven't seen any report that the U.S. doesn't consider Iran to be a state sponsor of terrorism. You can't not look at Hezbollah and all the other areas and say that they're not a state sponsor of terror. But I think it might be -- and Max is a historian, a very good one. Look at what we -- how we acted during the cold war against the "evil empire" in the Soviet Union and make the comparison of, we talked to them throughout that horrible cold war. BOOT: Nancy, it's true that... (CROSSTALK) SODERBERG: ... you have to negotiate -- now you're interrupting me, Max. BOOT: Nancy, we just talked about... SODERBERG: Max, now you're interrupting me! BOOT: The only agreements that we reached that were at all worthwhile were with Mikhail Gorbachev because he was a different kind of Soviet leader. SODERBERG: No, that's not true. BOOT: And we have not seen... SODERBERG: We had -- that is not true, Max. BOOT: We have not seen an different kind of Soviet leader... (CROSSTALK) BOOT: ... leader in Iran. SODERBERG: We had nuclear agreements on arms control from Nixon through the end of the Cold War. That's just not true. I know you know that. BOOT: The Soviets violated the SALT treaty. It was meaningless. HANNITY: Do you really believe the -- you -- I'll go back to my question -- allowing them to spin their centrifuges, enrich uranium, and in the sunset years, have a nuclear weapon, sworn to Israel's destruction... SODERBERG: No, we will not have -- we will not agree... (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Can I finish the question? Is that a risk you're willing to take? SODERBERG: No. HANNITY: Do you really trust the mullahs in Iran with their radical Islamic views? SODERBERG: No, I don't, and neither does the administration. |
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